EBM?
So I'm having dinner tonight with this group of happy medical students and they are bummin out about their EBM course and they ask me if I really use "EBM" and I say yes and then I do this little strep throat thing like this:
I see an adult in the office with a sore throat. No kids. No contact with kids
So I assume pre-test probability of about 5% Yeh - I made it up. I'm probably close.
And the sensitivity of the test I'm doing is 85% (possibly better -- but we'll be safe)
Specificty is very good - 99%
So let's do the poor man's version that I use to explain to the patient:
You have a 5% chance of having this BEFORE I do the test - so after the test you have a 15% chance of the 5% chance of having strep throat.
.15 x .05 = .0075 ... let's round it up to 1%.
"Mrs Jones - you have a 1% chance that you have strep throat after this negative rapid-strep. Go home and drink warm tea with honey and you will feel better soon." (ok .. go find the evidence for THAT!)
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Students get confused. "That's too easy" they seem to say. "We have to do all of those crazy calculations."
No - just understand. I say. Do the math and you'll get the same result here.
So here goes.
Given my number above - we need to calculate the Negative Likelihood Ratio - which is:
Negative Likelihood=(1-SENS)/SPEC
So: (1-.85)/.99 = 0.15
So our negative Likelhood Ratio is .15 = 15%
Now we need to relate this to our patient. For this - the EBM disciples use the Fagan Nomogram which really uses the formula:
Pos-test odds = Likelihood Ratio x pre-test odds
So ... Post-test odds = 15% x 5%
which is the same as
15 x .05 = .0075 ... let's round it up to 1%.
Look familar?
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